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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 6, 2013 16:31:44 GMT -5
You are more of a SMARK and I am more of a true wrestling fan. This is probably true.You're right. And you are right that if they had built other stars I wouldn't care about the heel turn so much. But there was that whole moment where Ryback got pushed I think not because Vince liked him but simply out of necessity of needing a face who Punk could square off with, with Cena being injured. And look how that turned out. But yes Creative sucks balls. Look at how much they've wasted Ziggler, Bryan and Jericho over the past year, despite them being clearly over. Same with Ryder last year. |
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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 6, 2013 16:58:29 GMT -5
Also I hope the Shield keeps winning things and that they eventually split off Ambrose as a main eventer because he's awesome.
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Post by yugi on Mar 6, 2013 20:49:45 GMT -5
Ryback got pushed because Vince has a Boner for big muscular guys. Ambrose would be better as a singles guy but when they break The Shield up they will prob push the fuck out of Roman Reigns, cuz isn't he The Rocks cousin?
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Post by yugi on Mar 6, 2013 20:53:58 GMT -5
Heck if either YOU or ME had big muscles Vince would probably push the shit out of us even if we had absolutely NO talent, a perfect example of this point is Cena John
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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 6, 2013 23:18:50 GMT -5
Heck if either YOU or ME had big muscles Vince would probably push the shit out of us even if we had absolutely NO talent, a perfect example of this point is Cena John I think Cena John has talent, he just is stuck in this gimmick that he clearly doesn't want to be doing, so he doesn't ever try. If you watch his matches with Punk, or Batista, or Sean Michaels, it's clear Cena is a good wrestler. It's just another creative issue, like you said. |
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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 6, 2013 23:22:38 GMT -5
Ryback got pushed because Vince has a Boner for big muscular guys. Ambrose would be better as a singles guy but when they break The Shield up they will prob push the fuck out of Roman Reigns, cuz isn't he The Rocks cousin? Ambrose is the guy that should be pushed, but I get why they stuck him in this group--his in-ring style seems better suited for any other era but this one, and watching him beat himself up probably confuses most PG era fans. And yeah, Reigns is getting a major push fo sho. |
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Post by yugi on Mar 7, 2013 15:37:35 GMT -5
Heck if either YOU or ME had big muscles Vince would probably push the shit out of us even if we had absolutely NO talent, a perfect example of this point is Cena John I think Cena John has talent, he just is stuck in this gimmick that he clearly doesn't want to be doing, so he doesn't ever try. If you watch his matches with Punk, or Batista, or Sean Michaels, it's clear Cena is a good wrestler. It's just another creative issue, like you said. Let me start by saying who the fuck is Sean Michaels? ha ha ha ha ha I liked Cena better when he first started on WWE tv back when he wasn't the rapper Cena, which I enjoyed. I'd prefer if he went back to that. |
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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 7, 2013 16:46:45 GMT -5
I think Cena John has talent, he just is stuck in this gimmick that he clearly doesn't want to be doing, so he doesn't ever try. If you watch his matches with Punk, or Batista, or Sean Michaels, it's clear Cena is a good wrestler. It's just another creative issue, like you said. Let me start by saying who the fuck is Sean Michaels? ha ha ha ha ha I liked Cena better when he first started on WWE tv back when he wasn't the rapper Cena, which I enjoyed. I'd prefer if he went back to that. Shawn*  |
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Post by yugi on Mar 7, 2013 16:55:07 GMT -5
ha ha ha, I bet if there was a major wrestler named Sean Michaels he'd prob be really lame
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Post by yugi on Mar 7, 2013 18:49:41 GMT -5
I was just thinking that wrestling is lacking in really great managers, ROH's Truth Martini is the best I've seen in recent years, and Zeb Colter he just looks like a fookin' walrus with that crappy 'stache
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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 8, 2013 11:13:57 GMT -5
RIP Paul Bearer  I bet shitty Heel Punk will use it against the Undetaker. Will that make you happy Jerry? Also I found out why Ziggler hasn't won the title yet...he is apparently from New Jersey, and several people backstage want him to have a huge moment at Mania so the Jersey fans can go happy. Vince doesn't want Ziggler to turn face though because he doesn't match Vince's ideals. |
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Post by yugi on Mar 8, 2013 14:28:41 GMT -5
Since it happened so recently I don't think Punk or anyone for that matter would wanna use it to further their story, but however with Vince in control they might use it. I don't like the idea of them using it as REAL death isn't one of those things that I think is meant to be used in furthering wrestling stories, but if it were just a storyline death then I'd be all for them using it
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Post by yugi on Mar 8, 2013 23:25:14 GMT -5
If I ever become a wrestler my name will be Randy Norton
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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 9, 2013 9:35:06 GMT -5
reading rumors about what they are doing with Ziggler, holy shit if they did this Ziggler would be the most over face in the company:
-Apparently Ziggler has been losing all his matches to set up a major face turn at Wrestlemania. In a similar way that Flair was used to manage Miz, they want to give Ziggler a manager--Shawn Michaels. Michaels would come out and tell Ziggler that his entourage of Langston and AJ is holding him back. Ziggler would have a match against Langston on the go-home show at Raw and win with a Super Kick. Then at Wrestlemania, Ziggler cashes in on Swagger with the Super Kick.
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Post by Big Mother Trucker on Mar 9, 2013 12:20:20 GMT -5
Jerry if you were a wrestler what would your entrance music be?
If I was a heel this would be mine:
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